Forever Living using sick children, Great Ormond Street Hospital and a charity to make unsubstantiated health claims.

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Have you seen any claims from Forever Living (FL) salespeople about their products and links with Great Ormond Street Hospital? Or with the skin condition Epidermolysis Bullosa (EB)?

In case you haven’t heard of EB, here is some information from an NHS website.

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Here are some examples of Forever Living distributors making health claims using GOSH/ sick children/ EB in order to sell their creams.

From a distributor’s blog

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Here is someone from FLP trying to get sufferers of EB to use the products on Facebook. There weren’t any replies to the question.

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Here a distributor is making claims about Gelly being used in the burns department at GOSH.

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Here, a distributor is making claims in a local publication to promote the company.

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I have personally heard a Forever distributor say that FL products are used at GOSH for putting on burns. I thought at the time that this didn’t sound right but kept quiet because I was at my friend’s house and it was her ‘launch party’.

This charity worker also heard of these claims. Her name is Janice and she seems to have worked/ works for DEBRA, a charity supporting patients and their families with EB. She became concerned about claims that were being made to people with EB and other DEBRA workers.

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These are the claims she was talking about. This is the message that was sent from someone selling these products.

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This document can be found here. I’m not sure of its context, it seems to just be floating around the internet on its own.

I decided to do a bit of investigating of the issue myself.

 

I found this on page 16 of Forever Living’s ad pack where they say what statements their salespeople are allowed to use.

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With regards to the first statement of money being raised, I found this in Company check that makes the information at Companies House available to the public. It is taken from their records for 2001.

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Was this statement audited? Is there footage of giant cheques being presented? Or was it just a statement put in the introduction with no need to prove it?

Timeless Vie, on behalf of Bot Watch, asked Forever Living Products (UK) to verify the facts mentioned in the ad pack. They did not reply. They asked again. No answers.

So I asked Great Ormond Street Hospital if they had received any money for funding these nurses. This was their reply.

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Maybe Forever Living’s distributors did raise that money. There is no evidence for it, but none against it either.

 

What about the other claims in that ad pack?

Janice (the woman who was researching the spurious claims) got a reply from the specialist EB dietician at GOSH about the Forever Living claims-

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I asked Great Ormond Street more questions. This is their reply. Their answers are in bold type.

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I asked DEBRA what their thoughts were on these claims. This is what they said-

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In conclusion,

Forever Living’s distributors are claiming their products have been used in research on EB at Great Ormond Street Hospital. They imply it was successful, so successful in fact, that you can get their product from the dermatology department there. They have associated themselves with DEBRA.

GOSH have no records of any research being carried out there, their creme wasn’t available there and it is not available there now. DEBRA do not endorse any products.

The health claims surrounding EB and Propolis creme are endorsed by FL themselves. There is no evidence to support these claims.

Using sick children, a well known NHS Children’s hospital and a charity to sell moisturiser is unacceptable. No health claims should be being made for this product as it is not licenced by the MHRA. For more on this issue, visit my other blog posts on it- Part one and part two.

If you sell these products, please stop making fraudulent claims.

 

Update- Since publishing this article it has come to light that Forever Living have told their distributors to stop associating them with GOSH. This was on a Mumsnet thread discussing the issue-

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I’d be happy to add a comment from Forever Living themselves if they want to leave one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 comments

  1. I’ve ‘liked’ this article, but I’m actually disgusted by its contents. Sufferers of EB and their families are ripe for exploitation by these snake oil sellers who are happy to take advantage of their desperate desire to relieve at least some of the daily pain and distress that this condition causes (and I know you have ample evidence that they exploit other vulnerable groups). Just how low are they prepared to go to make their 4CC’s? All the way to the bottom of the barrel, it seems. Thank you BotWatchBlog for your research which has led to this article’s publication. It is clear you have done a massive amount of investigation of all the relevant agencies in order to compile this article. I am disappointed that FL HO have not been able to answer your questions at this time. Hopefully, in time, they will (as a result of this article). I watch and wait for an update.

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